Curse

Angelic Upstart · Feb 14, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I used to think i was averagely well off, until i read this thread, over the last 28 months or so i have raised ten characters all with 15k Armour and one set of FoW armour, probably spent well over 2 million gold in this time , ( that is including the numerous level20 chars i have deleted ).
Currently i am sitting on 950 plat, and to be honest i am bored shitless, having a lot of money in the game means jack.. it brings boredom tbh, knowing you can afford almost anything you might want, ( polars bears the exception) i am not into minis or super rare weapons, i have a large collection of Tyrian req8's spread over my heroes, plus all the usual fashion items colossal, ele sword , req 9 crys, etc, but it all means bugger all, apart from the fact maybe i farmed too much.

Snow Bunny · Feb 14, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

I am now officially broke.

Same.

I bought me a Req7 15^50 fellblade yesterday.

There went all my money

phan · Feb 14, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Seriously ppl stop adding the " wherz ma puddin " option in the poll if i nevr get any

..

tbh ; i think most of the guru ppl have 55k +

Rocky Raccoon · Feb 14, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

I have been playing for 31 months and finally put 100k in storage in early January. I don't buy elite armors and the most expensive thing I ever bought was 2 black dyes from a guildie for 2k less than market value. I do have this bad habit of keeping things in storage and mules for who knows what.

NathanMurray · Feb 14, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Oh I don't have enough becuase ussually I buy just about everything on sale. God the same thing happened to me in WOW with the Auction house.

the_jos · Feb 14, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

It's not about having money, it's about being able to buy what one needs that matters.
If a player spends his gold wise, he/she should have more than enough to cover the basic needs.
This does not mean that one can buy anything (s)he wants, just that it's possible to obtain all one needs to finish the game.

After finishing the game, things get different.
One seeks new goals and a lot of them will be gold sinks or cost a lot of gold when buying stuff from other players.

However, it's not needed to do so.
The difference between a req12 13^50 +27HP sword and a req 8 15^50 +30HP is hard to notice in PvE.
And the first one is probably a blue drop or can be made very cheap.
Equipment like this can be used for everything in the game except perhaps PvP. But with the unlocks and a PvP character, that's not a problem.

If you want the best of the best, you must be willing to work hard for it or have a lot of luck.
I have decent income, but can't afford that Aston Martin even when saving for ages.
So I drive my humble Renault that also brings me from A to B and within traffic regulations they perform about the same.
And I could not buy that one instantly, also had to save for it.
If I did not have my car, I would travel by public transport, also gets me where I need to be, only I'd be more depending on their schedule.

In Guild Wars things are even easier.
The more time you spend, it's more likely you find a somewhat rare item.
An item with maxed stats and reasonably low req.
Not the Crystalline skin, but with exactly the same performance.

Now there are some 'rules' that help people low on cash.
First of all, a second character is cheaper to set up than the first one.
Or, said better, the first character can supply the second one.
When playing the game with the second character, you can obtain the rewards but spend less on the character. A second character can also make it easier to get into certain groups. Don't need my mesmer, but do need an ele? I get mine (if I had one).

Second, collect every drop you see and merch them. ID everything with a merchant value above 50g (my rule, could be somewhat lower).

Third, don't spend gold on things you don't need.
All skills unlocked on your PvE character is nice, but there is no need for it.
Unlock only the skills you need and buy only the equipment you really need.
Dye, keys, expensive runes.... Nice to have, but no need.
If you decide to buy an item like an expensive rune, make sure it pays.
+ Energy runes are worth it if you have the gold or if you need them to make a specific build that increases your income a lot, like a farming build, or one that speeds up the game a lot.

Fourth, if you ever want to play PvP, use a PvP character and not a PvE one.
This will save you a lot of cash on unlocking skills.
Not talking about RA/AB, you can play there with a limited number of builds.

Last but probably most important: set a realistic goal and make a plan.
If you want that FoW armor, make sure you have a plan to get it.
Don't even think about spending gold on anything you don't need.
You want that FoW, nothing else. No black dye, no treasure hunter title, no drunkard. Just FoW.
Make sure you have a steady income that fits the goal.
If your regular income is too low, consider farming or do repetitive runs in profitable areas. Sure it's grind, but you want that FoW, remember.
If you want something extra like black dye, make sure you cover the extra costs. Could mean more hours of grind, but you want that FoW and the black.

Now if you think FoW is not worth that grind, you are probably right.
It's possible to obtain it now by 'regular' gameplay, but instead of weeks you are looking at months before you will be able to get it.
And you need to play high-end stuff like vanquishing, hard mode dungeons, DoA or UW/FoW clearings.
And you need to be able to play a lot, not just 2-3 hours/week.
If you can't, FoW is like the Aston Martin is to me.
Very nice to have, but unless I win the lottery, I will never have one.

I know it's not easy to focus on the goal.
It's very tempting when someone is selling an item you always wanted for an amount of gold that you have in storage.
But ask yourself. Did you really want that item? And if so, why was that not your main goal? Or did you not really want that item, but the event just caused you to want it?

Realistic goals and clever spending is all you need to have more than enough gold in this game.

Raku Clayman · Feb 14, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I guess I am one of those players that has as much gold as one can get. Playing to accumulate funds and good items is just a different way of playing, than doing all the quests and missions. There are many ways to accumulate gold in GW. In fact, it is one of the easier things to do. Sometimes, it requires a knowledge of the price of the better items, what they sell for, and the willingness to take a little time to sell the better items. This is easy to find out because the price guides, to a certain degree, are posted in this forum. It is only a guide however and the price of an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. There are certain places where the most buying and selling take place, like Kamadan and LA. I used to sell my excess materials to a material trader until I found out that people go to Droks to buy and sell materials at a price somewhere between the merchant buy and sell price, which changes every day, much like a real commodities market. GW makes this easy with the trade tab of the chat screen. You don't even have to post your item. You can wait for someone to post a WTB and then approach them with your item. GW now allows you to buy a salvage kit in GWEN that doesn't destroy the original item so it is easy to extract a mod like a +30 or a 20/20 sundering mod that sells for 8-12K. Over the course of time everyone gets a random drop that fits into the rare item or perfect mod category. Plus. there are free treasure chests in NF that respawn every month so it's easy to get some rare items even if one is unwilling to buy keys or lockpicks.

If you prefer, you can sell your items at the auction sites. GW Guru has the best one. It's like ebay. I only sell req 9 or better items and merch the rest. Even if I only get 1-2K for an item, it is more than I would get for it at the merchant.

GW adds things periodically to change the economics of the supply and demand of certain items. For instance, when they added Green items they sold for much more than they did later on when there were plenty of each item. If they discontinue an item because it is too powerful, the price goes up. When Elemental Swords first came out, they went for a lot of gold. Later, as GW increased the drop rate, the price went down. I really enjoy the supply and demand part of the economics. The price of the gemstones in DoA go up and down regularly.

I particularly enjoy solo farming. It is a nice change of pace to going with a group and it has it's own challenges. There are many builds to experiment with that can be found in the forums here. If you have never done it, try it out. Success is largely based on the timing of running the skills in your skill set.

I could go on and on about this. I only skimmed the surface. And, hey, anyone can accumulate funds, especially the casual player.

I left something out that I wanted to say. I find that those who buy gold and the web sites that sell it, to be totally despicable and should be banned immediately. There is no need to buy gold because getting it in game is really, really easy.

Crom The Pale · Feb 14, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

The way I look at it is that GW has 3 levels of playing.

PvP, where money means nothing.(save for wanting to wield a certian skin for status sake alone)

PvE, where you need money to progress buying armor/runes/insignias/weapons/mods/ect...(these people will farm for necesities but will only purchase high end items if they happen to have cash on hand when they see them.)

Collectors, people that play only to aquire the rarest of items with the best stats even if they never use those items. They will farm for gold or for certain items sometimes to keep but mostly to sell. They will power trade as often as possible.(I've a guildie I put in this catagory after he customized a crystaline for his monk).

Most people have an idea of what catagory they wish to be in when they start but often change somewhere along the line. Some move from one to another while others spread out and incorporate all 3 into thier GW play time.

maraxusofk · Feb 15, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

all the pvp'ers i know usually have 500k+ jsut from hoh drops.

Terra Xin · Feb 15, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

You know... a straight forward ''yes'' or ''no'' poll would have gotten the idea through. Adding a third option that the majority chose doesn't help either.

credit · Feb 15, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

eBay solves this problem.

I do not support eBaying.

Thorondor Port · Feb 15, 2008, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Where is my pudding?

arcanemacabre · Feb 15, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terra Xin

You know... a straight forward ''yes'' or ''no'' poll would have gotten the idea through. Adding a third option that the majority chose doesn't help either.

I am thoroughly confused by the poll, so I chose pudding. Honestly, it and the OP ask if "players" have too much or not enough gold. Then the poll answers are effectively asking for our individual status, rather than what we think is the overall status.

So I deem this thread has failed until otherwise clarified.

TPike · Feb 15, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46

I got a fair amount of fireworks during the Canthan Holiday and sold them off yesterday to someone here for about 42 K.

Bought my first 15K armour

still have about 30K left.

I've been spending money on stuff i don't need since I got the extra cash but WTF why not.

It's nice having having some extra cash.

the Puppeteer · Feb 15, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00

you play the game out of your own interest - why compare yourself with other ppl?

Trelliz · Feb 15, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

I think i have quite reasonable goals when it comes to gold and stuff, all the ones that have been achieved so far from just general playing etc:

Filling minipet monument:
I used to buy mid-range expensive minipets such as the promotional ones or purples etc, but recently i've just been filling with any i can get to get 20, now i have 20 dedicated pets, and am looking to sell the majority of them if there is a market.

Tooling up my 3 necros and any heroes required for missions:
I use the 3-necro build in pve, and I make sure they are tooled up with runes and weapons, as well as the nightfall heroes required for the main missions, so that when it comes to doing them on hard mode they aren't stuck with beginner junk.

Filling armour and destroyer weapon monuments:
I'm doing the former first, as after i have 3 more sets, i can sell all materials to fund destroyer weapons, that will in line with the above go to heroes that are required for missions.

tbh after that i don't really have any things to do in gw that need money, HM/vanquishing/title grinding aren't cash-intensive, might save up for some expensive stuff after that.